Saturday, April 3, 2010

210: The (Other) Virgin Birth

Isaiah 5-8
"Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel." - Isaiah 7:14

The first part of chapter 5 is a rolling metaphor about Israel being destroyed by God. God calls all of the Israelites "bad grapes". And I guess when your vineyard is producing bad grapes, you have to burn the vineyard. Is it better to have bad grapes or no grapes, God?

The rest of the chapter is a list of "woes". The majority of these woes are people who drink too much. "Woes to those who rise early in the morning to run after their drinks," and, "Woe to those who are heroes at drinking wine and champions at mixing drinks." Sorry, bartenders, God hates you (while simultaneously loving you, as usual).

The beginning of chapter 6 is interesting. Isaiah says that he sees God sitting on a throne, with six winged seraphs flying around him.

Seraphs and God

Isaiah starts screaming because he thinks he's going to be killed. One of the seraphs flies down to him and touches Isaiah's lips with a hot piece of coal. The seraph then says, "See, this has touched your lips; your guilt is taken away and your sin atoned for." First of all, Isaiah just had his face touched with a hot coal and he doesn't seem to care. Second, why didn't God just atone for everyone's sin by touching them with coals instead of doing the whole Jesus thing?

God then tells Isaiah this:
He said, "Go and tell this people:
" 'Be ever hearing, but never understanding;
be ever seeing, but never perceiving.'

Make the heart of this people calloused;
make their ears dull
and close their eyes.
Otherwise they might see with their eyes,
hear with their ears,
understand with their hearts,
and turn and be healed."
Is God telling Isaiah to go confuse the people so they will die? God goes on to say that he should close their eyes until their cities are ruined and everyone is dead. Why is our all loving God telling Isaiah to go lead everyone to their death?

Chapter 7 is probably the most talked about chapter of Isaiah. Isaiah tells the king of Israel (Ahaz, at the time) that God will send a sign. The sign will be a virgin birth. The name of the child will be (*Drum roll*) Immanuel. This is taken to be a prophecy of Jesus' birth. To me, Immanuel is clearly not Jesus. Isaiah implies that this miracle will happen within Ahaz's lifetime (otherwise it wouldn't be much of a sign), and obviously Jesus is named Jesus, not Immanuel. So Jesus is, in fact, not the only virgin birth in the bible. By the way, in today's section we never hear about Immanuel actually being born, maybe later on in the book of Isaiah (though I suspect not).

All of chapter 8 just describes how God is going to use Assyria to destroy Israel.

I didn't think I was going to church this Easter, but I may just be flying down to Texas to go to Bay Area Fellowship Church in Corpus Cristi.

Why, you ask? They are giving away 2 million dollars worth of prizes to anyone that attends this Easter. The prizes include 16 cars, 15 flat-screen TVs, and furniture sets. The church got businesses from all around to pitch in, in an effort to get people to come to church that wouldn't otherwise. The pastor says, "They're coming for the loot and they're going to leave with Jesus."

While I commend the effort, I predict that exactly zero people will be saved by this. And on top of that, two million dollars that could have gone to help needy people has just been wasted. They seem to be under the false impression that all someone needs to be converted is to step foot inside a church and hear the message of Jesus. Not to mention that Jesus is probably rolling in his grave ("One thing you lack," he said. "Go, sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me." - Mark 10:21).

What's next, paying people to say they believe in Jesus? ($40,000 a year should do)

(via The Christian Post)


  1. you little liars do nothing but antagonize...

    and you try to eliminate all the dreams and hopes of humanity...

    but you LOST...


    Einstein puts the final nail in the coffin of atheism...



    atheists deny their own life element...



  2. Lol, it's a DM attack! I'm converted!

  3. Dave Mabus strikes again! Man, where DOESN'T that guy spam his garbage? I'm glad I keep my blog hidden and comment-less!

    Anyhow, I'm surprised that you didn't know that most fundies think that all it takes to convert nonbelievers is to "plant the seed". All it takes is for a Christian to say the magic words about Jesus, and the Holy Spirit can then convict the spirit of the heathen!

    If you haven't, watch an episode or two of The Way Of The Master with everybody's favorite religious idiots: Kirk Cameron and Ray Comfot. Their entire preaching style is dedicated to the magic power of just speaking the Gospel to atheists.

  4. Immanuel and Jesus come from 2 different words for God (actually, originally 2 different Gods) - El and Yahweh, respectively. One name means "God [El] is with us," the other "God [Yahweh] saves." Matthew used this common prophecy of the Messiah as a prophecy of Jesus, even stating that he was named Immanuel, without explaining why if they named him Immanuel his name was Jesus. You'll have a good laugh when you get to it.

    The Hebrew bible doesn't say "virgin," it says, "young woman." This has been a point of contention between Jews and Christians for centuries. The point of the original prophecy was not that a virgin was going to have a miraculous birth but that some events that Isiah predicted would occur within the time that it takes for a child that was to be born soon to grow old enough to distinguish right from wrong.



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