Sunday, May 30, 2010

267: Two Books in One

Obadiah
"See, I will make you small among the nations; you will be utterly despised." - Obadiah 1:2

The entirety of the book of Obadiah is God saying how bad Edom is. God sends Obadiah to tell them how bad they've been and how God is going to destroy them for what they've done. However, God doesn't promise to bring them back like he does the Israelites. I guess there is a downside to not being the chosen people.

It seems like they could have just tacked this entire book on to the end of another (it is only one chapter after all). I don't think anyone would have noticed.

Jonah
"From inside the fish Jonah prayed to the LORD his God." - Jonah 2:1

I think most of us know the basic story of Jonah (i.e. he gets swallowed by a whale/big fish, whatever). Even I know that part, and that's saying something. But there's a bit of back story that at least I didn't know.

God tells Jonah to go to Nineveh and preach against the people living there. Jonah says hell no and gets on a boat to Tarshish. On the boat's way to Tarshish God summons a huge storm. The people on the boat, knowing some God must be responsible, cast lots to figure out who's God is angry. Jonah's lot comes up so the people of the boat know that Jonah's God must be the one that's angry.

They ask Jonah what to do to calm the waters. Jonah tells them that the only solution is to throw him overboard. The people of the ship hesitate to throw him over, but once they see that they cannot handle the storm they go ahead and toss him into the sea. God, being the nice guy that he is, has a big fish eat Jonah. Of course, this "big fish" could be a whale. This wouldn't be the first time God miscategorized an animal (Leviticus 11:13-19). Jonah prays to God from inside this fish for 3 days.

I'm going to avoid arguing whether Jonah could have survived inside the stomach of a fish/whale. Common sense tells us that Jonah couldn't have. If there were enough oxygen inside a stomach to survive (there's not), Jonah would probably be thoroughly digested in 3 days. But I don't think this is a logical argument. Either you believe it, or you don't based on whether you believe God can make anything happen.

At the end of three days God commands the fish to puke Jonah up and, lo and behold, Jonah is dropped off at Nineveh. Jonah preaches against the people of Nineveh. For once, the people of Nineveh listen to God, so God doesn't destroy them. For some reason, Jonah is mad about this and spends the rest of the chapter saying he wants to die.

*News*
Well, it's finally been proven. God exists. I feel a little silly now.
New orleans, Frank Tipler, a professor at Tulane University, has been studying god, and he claims to have undeniable proof that God Exists. He started off in a Christian childhood, he then became an atheist at 16 when he began studying science. Recently he has converted back due to his newest discovery.
I'm on the edge of my seat.
God is the cosmological singularity, out of which the universe sprang. God created the universe, he will guide the universe, and until finally the universe will recollapse into him. The final singularity which is the same as the initial singularity. The cosmological singularity at its fullest extent is, in fact, God.
First of all, he's redefined God. God being a singularity is a long way from a personal God that listens to all of your prayers and sends Jesus to sacrifice himself for our sins. Second, this isn't, in any way, evidence. Randomly saying that God is a singularity doesn't make it true. Not to mention that science suggest that the universe isn't going to collapse back into a singularity.
He claims that his math coincides with Exodus in the bible, describing god referring to himself as "I am that I am" meaning that god is referring to himself as both past and future tense. By his logic this proves that god is with the universe from beginning to end.
The math coincides with Exodus? I'm not even sure what that means. I always thought God referring to himself as "I am that I am" was just God ranting. I now know that it's irrefutable evidence that God exists.

This guy obviously didn't study science hard enough.

(via Rant Rave)

6 comments:

  1. I don't you've emphasized enough how truly bizarre the ending of Jonah is:

    3:10. When God saw what they did and how they turned from their evil ways, he had compassion and did not bring upon them the destruction he had threatened.

    4:1 But Jonah was greatly displeased and became angry. 4:2 He prayed to the LORD, "O LORD, is this not what I said when I was still at home? That is why I was so quick to flee to Tarshish. I knew that you are a gracious and compassionate God, slow to anger and abounding in love, a God who relents from sending calamity. 4:3 Now, O LORD, take away my life, for it is better for me to die than to live."

    Why is Jonah so angry that in this (one) case God actually was compassionate?

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  2. "The only way to avoid the conclusion that the Omega Point exists is to reject the known laws of physics (i.e., the Second Law of Thermodynamics, general relativity, quantum mechanics, and the Standard Model of particle physics), and hence to reject empirical science: as these physical laws have been confirmed by every experiment to date. That is, there exists no rational reason for thinking that the Omega Point Theory is incorrect, and indeed, one must engage in extreme irrationality in order to argue against the Omega Point cosmology."

    No, this is just a theory. It rests on a number of unproven assumptions, including:

    1. The universe has finite spatial size and the topology of a three-sphere.
    2. There are no event horizons, implying the future c-boundary is a point, called the Omega Point.
    3. Sentient life must eventually engulf the entire universe and control it.

    (There are other assumptions, too.) Just because a theory is consistent with known laws of physics doesn't mean it is true. Unfortunately in theoretical physics for decades now theory has long since outstripped what can be verified experimentally, so theoreticians are free to invent all kinds of mathematical theories, most (or perhaps all) will turn out to be false. The best observational evidence so far indicates that the world is not closed, but it is far from certain.

    "Additionally, we now have the quantum gravity Theory of Everything (TOE) correctly describing and unifying all the forces in physics"

    Again, no. We have theories, but nothing that has been remotely verified.

    And even if the Universe is finite and will collapse on itself, this doesn't prove any of his ridiculous mumbo-jumbo about the Bible.

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  3. Here James Redford comes, to save the day~~~~!

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  4. James,

    Is it really necessary to keep stating all the different laws of physics every time you mention the phrase "the known laws of physics?" It's tiresome and suggests to me that being WORDY is more important to you than TALKING SENSE. In fact this seems clear from your writing in general.

    This Omega Point you're so in love with certainly sounds interesting at first, but you only have to weakly probe the so-called theory (it's nothing of the sort, actually) to find that it falls apart revealing itself to be nothing more than a combination of special pleading with a convenient redefinition of terms sprinkled on top to add flavour. 

    But please, continue spouting your volumous bullshit. I'm not harbouring under the illusion that you're open to the possibility that you're wrong. Also, it's rather fun to see how many logical fallicies someone can spout in defense of stupid ideas. I think I'll coin a new phrase for it. Let's see... I've got it! A "brain puke!" 

    So, I look forward to your next up-chucking of wrongness. 

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  5. tl;dr

    Someone had to say it.

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  6. In Monty Python and the Holy Grail, the bridgekeeper asks Sir Robin "What is the capital of Assyria?". Sir Robin didn't know and was cast into the Gorge of Eternal Peril. The correct answer is Nineveh. So, if you are ever standing at the Bridge of Death and get asked that question, now you know the answer. :)

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